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# Please do theme your distro
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This article is mainly written as a complaint against a number of GNOME
application developers, who had decided to complain against distro maintainers
that install non-standard themes in their distributions. One such notable example
is https://stopthemingmy.app/, but there exist more such movements out there. In
short, these devs want distro maintainers to always ship the GNOME desktop in
its default theme.
Now this might not sounds like a lot. Admittedly it's not. It's one of those
things where I just think someone is straight up wrong, and trying to push their
wrong deeper into the world.
## The argument
GNOME devs are currently expressing a desire to remove theming support from
the GNOME desktop, which arguably already is half-removed. As it currently
stands, using themes (better known as GTK stylesheets) already requires
installing some tools just to access the feature. But it's there, and can be
used if desired. Some linux distributions, like Ubuntu, by default ship with a
custom theme.
However, GNOME devs argue that custom themes break their applications. Well,
some of them do anyway, largely depending on the theme even. Yet it's enough
to set some over the edge and complain about it. Quoting from the
before-mentioned webpage, "GTK Stylesheets can make applications look broken,
and even unusable." They continue to argue even about icon themes as well, noting
that "Icon Themes can change icon metaphors" and "Changing an app's icon denies
the developer the possibility to control their brand."
In a way, what they argue for is complete control of the visual representation
of their applications. Including icons and all.
## What I think they got right
While there's a lot wrong with their arguments, let's first focus on what I do
agree with; a dev needs a certain amount of guarantee that their app is going
to at least look properly and functional in the system where it's distributed on.
That means certain visual components should have a predictable look. Icons should
be what you predict them to be.
There's also something to be said about their argument regarding programs like
Blender, Atom and Telegram.
> We are tired of having to do extra work for setups we never intended to
> support, just to have that used against us when people tell us the breakage
> from theming is “not that bad”. You are not doing this to Blender, Atom,
> Telegram, or other third party apps. Just because our apps use GTK that does
> not mean were ok with them being changed from under us.
It is indeed unjust if the platform tools you use leave you at a particular
disadvantage, in contrast to those not even using platform-specific tools.
However, wanting the design-freedom of an electron app is an entirely different
topic.
## Where they dropped the ball
What I do not agree with however, is their demand for total control. While the
argument is aimed at distro maintainers, what I wonder is how much that even
would do; in the end, users most often will do a little theming of their own
if it suits them. And icon theme here, a little gtk stylesheet there, are not
difficult to install. Which leads me to my first counter argument:
*If your application relies so heavily on a particular look, why use platform
tools like GTK?*
GTK (formerly the GIMP ToolKit) is a toolkit made for designing graphical
applications. It provides you with standardized controls and widgets, that
adhere to the system theme coloring and other styling properties. That's the
job of the toolkit; to provide a standard-compliant set of tools for you.
However, that also binds you to such standards and the limitations they have.
If you want your application to fit in with GNOME, you use GTK. If you want
you application to live its own life, make an electron app.
This is also why such mentioned apps like Telegram and Atom have an "edge".
These are basically web applications, styled by their own CSS stylesheet,
ignoring the desktop theming completely. This isn't because GTK devs or distro
maintainers are purposely making things difficult, it's the inate difference
between GTK and electron. Speaking of electron and CSS:
*Your application won't break if you set your style classes correctly.*
Yes, the things that so often break are in fact custom controls, made with
custom CSS styling that does not adhere to the system styling. To complain
that a different theme breaks them is more an admittance of shoddy programming.
Such custom controls are often added "to set the application apart from others"
which in and by itself isn't a bad thing to do, but it's more often done for
the visual "wow factor", rather than functional ingenuity. Which also brings me
to:
*Your application is a tool, not a brand.*
Computer programs have a fundamental purpose on a computer. It's to make the
computer do *thing*. The purpose of a program should be to perform a particular
task, to help the user do something. Billboards were made to promote brands.
Besides, I'm a firm believer that a good program will promote itself. People
will always come back to an application that does exactly what they want, as
easy as possible.
Adding to that, I would argue it's not the right of the developer to tell a
user (or distro maintainer for that matter) how to use their system. If they
want the authentic Hot Dog Stand experience, that's their prerogative. The
user controls their system, and distro maintainers control their distro. This
brings me to my next point:
*Distro maintainers have the right to make their distro anything they want.*
After all, the distro maintainers already have a fairly involved job. Theirs is
to compile a large sum of software in order to create a linux distribution, a
system suitable for daily use with all the tools people would want. It's not
far-fetched to consider that it is therefore also the duty of the maintainers
to cater to the presentation of their distro, not merely to promote their image,
but to provide a pleasant, convenient and consistent desktop experience for
users. After all, a distro that looks like a cluttered mess is not very nice
to use.
Regarding convenience and a consistent desktop, let's also consider another
particular group of users: those that require accessibility tools. No doubt
the bane of these devs, because they need things like *custom high contrast
themes*, *enlarged icons*, and perhaps even more particular things that no doubt
would make an application look hideous. But for these people, it is a must.
*People with physical limitations need accessibility options.*
While it is fair to state that this is strictly about end-users and not the
distro maintainers, I do still think this is a fair counter point to make.
Maintainers should have a way of adding options to help people with limitations
use their distro. And that could very well be implemented in the form of modified
looks meant to increase contrast and readability, which would naturally conflict
with all sorts of custom GUIs, worst offenders being electron apps, which
straight up don't listen to such settings most of the time. This also really
boils back to the "your application is a tool" argument, if your program is not
usable for these people, there's little point to whatever fancy look it might have.
## What they can do about it
Frankly, much of what the GNOME application developers say is just straight up
bonkers. As said before, what they want is a form of control, over both the
distro maintainers and users, basically telling them "your system should look
like we tell you to". This however flies straight in the face of what open-source
development is supposed to entail. It's about being open and collaborative, not
about being closed and dictating.
*If you don't want users tinkering with your application, consider not developing
open source software.*
Now that line I should not need to say considering GNOME devs are supposed to be
GNU people. But GNOME has been so anti-open in the recent times that I would think
it's needed now.
Another suggestion I can give to application developers is to not rely on hacky
toolkit exploits and Adwaita-specific quirks to build your programs, as that
quite locks you into being a full-blown quirk-program, entirely dependent on
those exploits. This naturally does not carry over well to anything that isn't
an Adwaita theme, so doing things that way, you kinda set yourself up to fail.
*Do not rely on quirks. Keep it simple, and compliant.*
Lastly, I would wholeheartedly invite the GNOME devs to open their minds to what
the linux community has to say. We don't complain because we like to bash. We do
so because we're fed up with the dictative abuse. The same things that made us
run from Windows and OSX, are now the very things seeping into GNOME. Such would
be a shame, given how much the GNOME desktop meant to people in older times.
As to the other readers, I would say "please continue theming your system". It's
your system, you do with it what you want, and nobody can tell you otherwise.
The same goes for distro maintainers; please provide us with a consistent, good
looking desktop right out of the box. Give us a system we can *use*.

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</p> <td>12 Jun 2022</td>
<td>"Please do theme your distro"</td>
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<li>first</li> Blog update:
<li>second</li> <li>Added new blog entry "Please do theme your distro".</li>
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1.5.1 Patch: 1.5.1 Patch:
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